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30.   Oct 2, 2006 3:34 PM

» rasputin - Walid Phares radio interview


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http://www.walidphares.com/

Click on the above link and then access the first entry - the radio interview.

The op ed piece below it is also good.

-- posted by rasputin


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31.   Oct 5, 2006 6:47 PM

» rasputin - Interesting Muslim discussion board


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Join the conversation. Or not. These are honest-to-goodness America- and Jew-hating Muslims right here.

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/

-- posted by rasputin


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32.   Oct 6, 2006 2:27 PM

» Laughman - Dashboard Mohammed

In response to Dashboard Mohammed posted by honeyoneohone:


"She is beyond reproach in her intellectual honesty."

A quote from Michelle Malkin:

"I originally came up with the idea for the Dashboard Mohammed while browsing eBay (drunk), which is how I spend about 20% (80%) of my time at work (home)."

Honest? Perhaps. Intellectual? Hmmm...

-- posted by Laughman


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33.   Oct 7, 2006 8:57 AM

» rasputin - A Judgment Rooted in Ignorance


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Fitzgerald: A judgment rooted in ignorance
Jihadwatch.org

The teacher, using an instructional guide, told students they would adopt roles as Muslims for three weeks to help them learn what Muslims believe.
She encouraged them to use Muslim names, recited prayers in class, had them memorize and recite a passage from the Quran and made them give up something for a day, such as television or candy, to simulate fasting during the month of Ramadan. - from this news article
What prayers are said? Is the Profession of Faith one of those things that is said? Do little boys and girls say the Shehada, and are then told "now you have done what everyone has to do to become a Muslim"? And if so, is this done under the beaming eye of the teacher? And do the children return home, full of stories about "I recited this prayer and if I want, I can be a Muslim" or "I did just what Muslims do, mom, and it's really neat" or "I really like those prayers, they're just kinda like our prayers so I think the teacher is right, all religions are just the same" or [fill in the seemingly innocent, in reality quite dangerous nonsense]? Those helpless little heads are a captive audience of their teachers, whether those teachers are of the terminally naive variety or the sinister sort. Who suggested this lesson plan? Who's been pushing it?

Neither the judges in the lower courts, nor the Justices of the Supreme Court, know a thing about Islam. They may not realize the psychological effect on young children of having them participate in such a way by not merely studying, but by adopting roles as Muslims. Studying is one thing, if the studying is not simply the usual apologetics and nonsense, focused on such trivia as Ramadan and Iftar and the upright "family values" of Muslims (tell that to Muhammad's Jewish concubine, whose husband, father, brother were killed by Muhammad, or to his Coptic concubine/wife, or to little Aisha and all the little child-brides of today, legalized in Iran and elsewhere, because of Muhammad as the model). Studying should rather focus on the core of Islam that matters so much: the uncompromising division of the world between Believer and Infidel and the endless war between them, which stops only when all obstacles to the dominance of Islam everywhere end, and everywhere Muslims rule.

Would the Supreme Court allow similar indoctrination into any other religion? Would it permit schools to insist that all schoolchildren should study, say, the Baltimore Catechism, and learn to provide the teacher, in a public school, with the memorized answers from that Catechism? How long would that be permitted? Ten seconds?

Where is the ACLU on this? How silly of me to ask, how pointless to wonder.

Like the Executive branch with tarbaby Iraq, and like Congress, which is divided between those who support Bush blindly and those who oppose him equally blindly (with only a handful who see the truth), the Judicial branch of our government thinks it can deal with questions involving Islam without comprehending Islam, without comprehending the psychology of a child who may be affected permanently by a cute little experiment in international living, or rather by a sinister, not innocent, attempt to manipulate minds.

This has to be reconsidered. There must, on the Supreme Court, be one or two capable of comprehending this. There must be one or two who are capable of understanding that Islam is not just a "religion" or, still worse, a religion "of peace and tolerance" or "one of the world's great religions." It is a complete system of regulation of life, a total explanation of the universe, a political and even geopolitical program, together with -- yes -- those Five Pillars of Worship which, of course, are in the damn unit on Islam, the one on World Religions that will make them all equal, but will be especially solicitous (you can bet on it) of Islam, Islam, Islam.

Look at all the gushing bits on television about the observance of Ramadan, and Iftar dinners, and all those articles in every newspaper about "What it Means to be a Young Muslim Woman in America Today" and "What It Means to be a Young Muslim Professional in America Today" and "What It Means to be a Young Arab Muslim In America Today" and "What It Means to be a Convert to Islam Today" and so on.

Seen any articles on Hindus lately? On Buddhists? On Sikhs? Why not? Why don't we see gushing articles about them, or television bites on, say, Hindu festivals and other observances (why can't we find out about those?), or on the Five K's of the Sikhs, or on the lost lamaseries of Lhasa? Why not? Cat got someone's tongue? Or are all those other, peaceful religions, which are entirely unhostile to the political, legal, and moral institutions of the Western world, for that very reason to be treated as non-existent or uninteresting?

My. Perhaps Hindus and Buddhists and Sikhs could tell us a thing or two about Islam -- Islam in India, Islam in Malaysia, Islam in Indonesia. Now and in the past. We might learn something. We might find out that the problem is a bit more than Islam and America, or even Islam and the West.

Islam -- and All the Rest. That's the problem. And the problem is not with all the rest. The odd man out, the causer of the problems whatever other faith it comes up against, is Islam.

-- posted by rasputin


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34.   Oct 22, 2006 3:00 PM

» javelin - We're Muslim-Americans - kill us, too

In response to We're Muslim-Americans - kill us, too posted by Kirk:


Thanks Kirk, great post.

-- posted by javelin


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35.   Oct 22, 2006 10:21 PM

» Amooret_Liban - What Muhammad means to Muslims

In response to What Muhammad means to Muslims posted by lcha:


when the Muslim community shows respect for the other religions of the world, I'm sure the rest of the world will show respect for theirs and the clash of civilizations will cease;

it is the other way around. Meaning that these "muslims" are crying out for help. Example like in Gaza, the Palestineans are being treated like 3rd class citizens, they dont have the same rights, their family members are being killed. But yet, when they ask the world for help, the world turns a blind eye. That is why they show no respect, because they are not even being treated as human beings. If an Israeli Jew were being treated that way we would all be called Anti semitic, but when u treat a Palestinean that way, you ignore when infact you are being anti semitic! arabs are semitic. Then will you see the clashes of civilizations cease. No justice no peace

-- posted by Amooret_Liban


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36.   Oct 22, 2006 10:23 PM

» Amooret_Liban - Interesting Muslim discussion board

In response to Interesting Muslim discussion board posted by rasputin:


please you are posting that site like the muslims are terrorising the Isreali Jews. When infact the IDF terrories the Palestineans and Lebanese, dont make the guilty the victim. Because obviously Isreali Jews arent the victimsin this day and age

-- posted by Amooret_Liban


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37.   Oct 23, 2006 5:57 AM

» doctorj2 - Interesting Muslim discussion board

In response to Interesting Muslim discussion board posted by Amooret_Liban:


One can claim that the Israeli Jews are treating the Islamic Arabs as second class citizens but one can just as easily argue there is good reason for this treatment. When Islam gained power in Lebanon they tried to eliminate the non-arabs and one can argue the treatment of Christians & Jews in Lebanon was far worse than the way Arabs are being treated by the Jews. Afterall the non-Islamic Lebonese treated the Islamic minority (when it was a minority) far better than the way the Jews & Christians were treated once the Islamic Arabs became the majority in Lebanon.

Take a look at Sudan and you can see that the Islamic Arabs are not treating their non-Islamic countrymen all that well. Indeed, genocide seems to be the Islamic Arabs "solution".

It appears to me that the Islamic Arabs are calling for the elimination of Israel whereas the Israelis seem willing to live in peace with their Arab neighbors.

I admit to knowing little about the Middle-East and Islam and what little I have heard/read comes from the US media but at least on the surface it seems the problem is more with the beliefs of Islam than other more tolerant religions. Of course, I am no fan of any religion. Aethists are probably the most disliked minority in the US but at least the government is bent on protecting their rights as citizens. How are aethists treated in Islamic/Arab countries?

-- posted by doctorj2


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38.   Oct 23, 2006 7:04 AM

» Laughman - Dashboard Mohammed

In response to Dashboard Mohammed posted by honeyoneohone:


"Michelle Malkin DID NOT SAY THAT!"

???

The very first sentence of the paragraph you quote is exactly the same sentence that I quoted.


"I'd love nothing more right now that to tell you what you are and what you should do with yourself, but Kirk would have to delete my post--and rightfully so!"


Oh please, Honey, do tell. I promise I won't go running to Kirk.

-- posted by Laughman


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39.   Oct 23, 2006 7:52 AM

» lcha - What Muhammad means to Muslims

In response to What Muhammad means to Muslims posted by Amooret_Liban:
But yet, when they ask the world for help, the world turns a blind eye.

"The World" does not owe the Palestinians anything. Nor does the world owe the Israelis anything. The Palestinians are owed a right to freedom and the ability to pursue their happiness by their government. This is what the Israeli government provides for THEIR citizens, including 1 million Arab Israeli citizens.

The Israelis pulled out of Gaza a year ago. Since then the Palestinians have elected a violent government to rule over them. When you can show me that the constitution of this Palestinian government provides for the same basic freedoms for it's citizens that the constitution that the Israeli citizens enjoy then I will think the Palestinian plight might have an end.

-- posted by lcha


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