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1512.   Aug 14, 2007 1:45 PM

» lcha - This market looks nasty--may need to work the

In response to This market looks nasty--may need to work the posted by chlo888:


A mini down that was created late last week has a wall of 1392.66.
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I'm staying flat right now. Volatility is big enough that tight stops will just get taken out and I really don't want to go with 10 point stops to avoid that.

-- posted by lcha


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1513.   Aug 15, 2007 8:16 AM

» GROUNDZERO - Looking for a bottom here...

In response to This market looks nasty--may need to work the posted by lcha:


I think the selling is about over...

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NOTICE: The time stamp on this forum is not Chicago Time, so kindly take this into account when questioning time and sales when trades are posted. The SP's are traded in Chicago.

For free email alerts after each new position is entered, contact me at mailto:spiralprofits@gmail.com but if you already signed up last year, there is no need to sign up again. Just be sure your email address is the same. If not, then please let us know so we can make that correction.

DISCLAIMER: My comments, replies, and opinions are general in nature, they are not meant or intended as specific investment advice to anyone, and certainly do not represent the opinion of anyone but myself. Individuals should consult with their professional advisors for specific investment advice. The spiral model is strictly experimental in nature and should not be used for trading purposes except by those individuals who have a fluent working knowledge of its abilities, mechanisms, and limitations.

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1514.   Aug 15, 2007 1:01 PM

» lcha - Looking for a bottom here...

In response to Looking for a bottom here... posted by GROUNDZERO:


I think the selling is about over...
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GZ, I commend you for your bravery with such declarations. Hopefully by August 24th we'll see that bottom.

-- posted by lcha


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1515.   Aug 15, 2007 1:23 PM

» GROUNDZERO - Long one at 1410.00...

In response to Looking for a bottom here... posted by lcha:


Okay, I'll take my chances, long one at 1410.00...

GZ http://xrl.us/SpiralProfits

NOTICE: The time stamp on this forum is not Chicago Time, so kindly take this into account when questioning time and sales when trades are posted. The SP's are traded in Chicago.

For free email alerts after each new position is entered, contact me at mailto:spiralprofits@gmail.com but if you already signed up last year, there is no need to sign up again. Just be sure your email address is the same. If not, then please let us know so we can make that correction.

DISCLAIMER: My comments, replies, and opinions are general in nature, they are not meant or intended as specific investment advice to anyone, and certainly do not represent the opinion of anyone but myself. Individuals should consult with their professional advisors for specific investment advice. The spiral model is strictly experimental in nature and should not be used for trading purposes except by those individuals who have a fluent working knowledge of its abilities, mechanisms, and limitations.

-- posted by GROUNDZERO


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1516.   Aug 15, 2007 1:39 PM

» GROUNDZERO - Icha...

In response to Looking for a bottom here... posted by lcha:


We're approaching the floor of the main down spiral, we could go as low as the 1392ish level, but not necessarily... I think we're probably closer to a low than most would suspect... anyhow, this is my guess, and I'm using the floor of the main down spiral as a guide, agreed this is a bit aggressive since we still have another 20 points of nothing but thin air between the bottom of my feet and the floor...

GZ http://xrl.us/SpiralProfits

NOTICE: The time stamp on this forum is not Chicago Time, so kindly take this into account when questioning time and sales when trades are posted. The SP's are traded in Chicago.

For free email alerts after each new position is entered, contact me at mailto:spiralprofits@gmail.com but if you already signed up last year, there is no need to sign up again. Just be sure your email address is the same. If not, then please let us know so we can make that correction.

DISCLAIMER: My comments, replies, and opinions are general in nature, they are not meant or intended as specific investment advice to anyone, and certainly do not represent the opinion of anyone but myself. Individuals should consult with their professional advisors for specific investment advice. The spiral model is strictly experimental in nature and should not be used for trading purposes except by those individuals who have a fluent working knowledge of its abilities, mechanisms, and limitations.

-- posted by GROUNDZERO


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1517.   Aug 15, 2007 8:54 PM

» chlo888 - Long with you GZ..1401.75--futures are dwn 12 points tonight....

In response to Icha... posted by GROUNDZERO:


-- posted by chlo888


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1518.   Aug 16, 2007 2:25 AM

» GROUNDZERO - Long with you GZ..1401.75--futures are dwn 12 points tonight....

In response to Long with you GZ..1401.75--futures are dwn 12 points tonight.... posted by chlo888:


This is a very light long position with a mini, I could carry this down to zero and not even blink... for the record, this is NOT a spiral buy signal purchase, although I am using the spiral to add to my broader portfolio with this mini contract... I'm anticipating that the 1492ish level will attract significant buying... we'll see... right now, the DOW is approaching it's 200 day moving average, the markets are significantly over sold, and the coming main up spiral is showing a possible rally to the 1650ish level in the first quarter of 2008... again, this buy is not a spiral signal buy, but more a buy for my portfolio since I don't buy stocks, a mini contract is the same as 500 SPY shares but without all the hassle and only pennies in commish... I don't know why more people don't use the futures market for their stock portfolio, the SP futures is a basket of 500 of the biggest and best companies in America... and to borrow the phrase from Merrill Lynch, I'm bullish on America...

GZ http://xrl.us/SpiralProfits

NOTICE: The time stamp on this forum is not Chicago Time, so kindly take this into account when questioning time and sales when trades are posted. The SP's are traded in Chicago.

For free email alerts after each new position is entered, contact me at mailto:spiralprofits@gmail.com but if you already signed up last year, there is no need to sign up again. Just be sure your email address is the same. If not, then please let us know so we can make that correction.

DISCLAIMER: My comments, replies, and opinions are general in nature, they are not meant or intended as specific investment advice to anyone, and certainly do not represent the opinion of anyone but myself. Individuals should consult with their professional advisors for specific investment advice. The spiral model is strictly experimental in nature and should not be used for trading purposes except by those individuals who have a fluent working knowledge of its abilities, mechanisms, and limitations.

-- posted by GROUNDZERO


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1519.   Aug 16, 2007 4:55 AM

» lcha - Long with you GZ..1401.75--futures are dwn 12 points tonight....

In response to Long with you GZ..1401.75--futures are dwn 12 points tonight.... posted by GROUNDZERO:


Based on the wall price of the mini down, I went long at 1393.00.

-- posted by lcha


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1520.   Aug 16, 2007 5:02 AM

» GROUNDZERO - Long with you GZ..1401.75--futures are dwn 12 points tonight....

In response to Long with you GZ..1401.75--futures are dwn 12 points tonight.... posted by lcha:


Great fill!!! Let's hope the wall price and the floor for the main spiral works this time!!!

GZ http://xrl.us/SpiralProfits

NOTICE: The time stamp on this forum is not Chicago Time, so kindly take this into account when questioning time and sales when trades are posted. The SP's are traded in Chicago.

For free email alerts after each new position is entered, contact me at mailto:spiralprofits@gmail.com but if you already signed up last year, there is no need to sign up again. Just be sure your email address is the same. If not, then please let us know so we can make that correction.

DISCLAIMER: My comments, replies, and opinions are general in nature, they are not meant or intended as specific investment advice to anyone, and certainly do not represent the opinion of anyone but myself. Individuals should consult with their professional advisors for specific investment advice. The spiral model is strictly experimental in nature and should not be used for trading purposes except by those individuals who have a fluent working knowledge of its abilities, mechanisms, and limitations.

-- posted by GROUNDZERO


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1521.   Aug 16, 2007 5:47 AM

» lcha - Long with you GZ..1401.75--futures are dwn 12 points tonight....

In response to Long with you GZ..1401.75--futures are dwn 12 points tonight.... posted by GROUNDZERO:


GZ, there is one more big advantage of using the futures for a broad based investment and that is the special tax treatment. All gains are taxed at 40% long, 60% short term I believe. So, for short term gains, 40% will be taxed as long term gains.
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If this turns out to be a bigger correction than thought, I'm thinking we may at least test the previous support at the 1433 level, which may become resistance.
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At least that's what the fortune cookie I opened last night said...

-- posted by lcha


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