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2199.   Nov 2, 2006 7:31 PM

» GROUNDZERO - lintou...

In response to lintou... posted by lintou:


If the weekly down spiral actually materialized, the 1150 level would not likely come into play for several months, but again, I think tomorrow will see a rally, and if so then we could well be on our way to somewhere above the 1400 level...

GZ http://xrl.us/SpiralProfits
DISCLAIMER: My comments, replies, and opinions are general in nature, they are not meant or intended as specific investment advice to anyone, and certainly do not represent the opinion of anyone but myself. Individuals should consult with their professional advisors for specific investment advice. The spiral model is strictly experimental in nature and should not be used for trading purposes except by those individuals who have a fluent working knowledge of its abilities, mechanisms, and limitations.

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2200.   Nov 3, 2006 5:40 AM

» GROUNDZERO - Long at 1271.00...

In response to lintou... posted by GROUNDZERO:


I've been very busy in the workshop tinkering with my model and trying to pick the very tops and bottoms, and based on the new revision of my model, I will say the bottom is in and we're on our way to the 1410ish level in the Decembers... let's see if this new revision works...

GZ http://xrl.us/SpiralProfits
DISCLAIMER: My comments, replies, and opinions are general in nature, they are not meant or intended as specific investment advice to anyone, and certainly do not represent the opinion of anyone but myself. Individuals should consult with their professional advisors for specific investment advice. The spiral model is strictly experimental in nature and should not be used for trading purposes except by those individuals who have a fluent working knowledge of its abilities, mechanisms, and limitations.

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2201.   Nov 3, 2006 5:53 AM

» lintou - lintou...

In response to lintou... posted by GROUNDZERO:
Thank you, GZ.
The market has already poped up. Good trade to catch 1371. It was setting on the bottom trend line of short term up channel, and up trend line of long term up channel.

-- posted by lintou


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2202.   Nov 3, 2006 6:08 AM

» GROUNDZERO - Kirk...

In response to Long at 1271.00... posted by Kirk:


I think it is far more fun for everyone when the market is going up.

I agree completely, even when I'm short... it just seems counter to our nature to take short positions in the market, but you gotta do what you gotta do, and sometimes it takes elephant balls and no second guessing, you just have to jump in and hope you're right, that's what trading is all about at the emotional level...

BTW, if this revised model does well, I could then pick very near the tops and bottoms before the spiral issues any signal or confirmation... this is excellent news...

GZ http://xrl.us/SpiralProfits
DISCLAIMER: My comments, replies, and opinions are general in nature, they are not meant or intended as specific investment advice to anyone, and certainly do not represent the opinion of anyone but myself. Individuals should consult with their professional advisors for specific investment advice. The spiral model is strictly experimental in nature and should not be used for trading purposes except by those individuals who have a fluent working knowledge of its abilities, mechanisms, and limitations.

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2203.   Nov 3, 2006 8:50 AM

» GROUNDZERO - So much for picking the bottom...

In response to Kirk... posted by GROUNDZERO:


It looks like the confirmed weekly sell signal holds dominance over the daily charts... let's see where this goes... needless to say, I'm out of that long at 1371.00, I'm short again at 1370... oh well for trying something new...

GZ http://xrl.us/SpiralProfits
DISCLAIMER: My comments, replies, and opinions are general in nature, they are not meant or intended as specific investment advice to anyone, and certainly do not represent the opinion of anyone but myself. Individuals should consult with their professional advisors for specific investment advice. The spiral model is strictly experimental in nature and should not be used for trading purposes except by those individuals who have a fluent working knowledge of its abilities, mechanisms, and limitations.

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2204.   Nov 3, 2006 10:25 AM

» PatMoylan - So much for picking the bottom...

In response to So much for picking the bottom... posted by GROUNDZERO:


GZ,

When you last posted your short position, you had talked about a turning point of perhaps 20-30 points down from the 1395 level where we were at that time. That's close to levels now.

Is that spiral still intact, or has there been sufficient change in the spiral to look for an even lower turning point? If so, how low do you see it now.

I like the idea that you are still tweaking your system!

Thanks as always for keeping us posted on your work.

Pat

-- posted by PatMoylan


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2205.   Nov 3, 2006 10:41 AM

» GROUNDZERO - Pat...

In response to So much for picking the bottom... posted by PatMoylan:


Hi Pat,

Yes, we've reached the 30 point stretch, the model is still short but I think it's worth taking a nibble at this level...

GZ http://xrl.us/SpiralProfits
DISCLAIMER: My comments, replies, and opinions are general in nature, they are not meant or intended as specific investment advice to anyone, and certainly do not represent the opinion of anyone but myself. Individuals should consult with their professional advisors for specific investment advice. The spiral model is strictly experimental in nature and should not be used for trading purposes except by those individuals who have a fluent working knowledge of its abilities, mechanisms, and limitations.

-- posted by GROUNDZERO


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2206.   Nov 6, 2006 8:35 AM

» GROUNDZERO - By golly...

In response to Pat... posted by GROUNDZERO:


Yep, by golly, the top and bottom indicator really did work, I just didn't know how well, not enough to trust it but I will next time around... the original model is close to buying...

GZ http://xrl.us/SpiralProfits
DISCLAIMER: My comments, replies, and opinions are general in nature, they are not meant or intended as specific investment advice to anyone, and certainly do not represent the opinion of anyone but myself. Individuals should consult with their professional advisors for specific investment advice. The spiral model is strictly experimental in nature and should not be used for trading purposes except by those individuals who have a fluent working knowledge of its abilities, mechanisms, and limitations.

-- posted by GROUNDZERO


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2207.   Nov 6, 2006 8:46 AM

» PatMoylan - By golly...

In response to By golly... posted by GROUNDZERO:


Even the "ballpark" projection for a reversal that you initially made from 1395 is pretty close to the mark.

Is your tweaking an attempt to get it down to the precise fraction now!!!

Pat

-- posted by PatMoylan


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2208.   Nov 6, 2006 10:02 AM

» GROUNDZERO - Pat...

In response to By golly... posted by PatMoylan:


(big laugh) I suppose you're right, there's nothing like becoming a classic obsessive-compulsive, I should be happy with what I have already... BTW, I'm hoping to see 1410.40ish no later than Monday, November 20th...

GZ http://xrl.us/SpiralProfits
DISCLAIMER: My comments, replies, and opinions are general in nature, they are not meant or intended as specific investment advice to anyone, and certainly do not represent the opinion of anyone but myself. Individuals should consult with their professional advisors for specific investment advice. The spiral model is strictly experimental in nature and should not be used for trading purposes except by those individuals who have a fluent working knowledge of its abilities, mechanisms, and limitations.

-- posted by GROUNDZERO


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